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Heavy mineral assemblages of the De Long Trough and southern Lomonosov Ridge glacigenic deposits: implications for the East Siberian Ice Sheet extent
Raisa Alatarvas
Matt O'Regan
Kari Strand
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RC1: 'Comment on cp-2021-111', Ruediger Stein, 13 Oct 2021
Review by Ruediger Stein (11 October 2021)
(for complete review including figures see supplement)
Whereas quite detailed information about the existence, timing and extent of the North American and Eurasian ice sheets during the Pleistocene glaciations is available, the data base for the existence, timing and extent of an East Siberian Ice Sheet is very limited and based on sparse geophysical and marine geological data (e.g., Jakobsson et al., 2010; Niessen et al., 2013; Jakobsson et al., 2014). In order to get more detailed information about the history of this ice sheet, Alatarvas et al. present new mineralogical data from marine sediment cores recovered from the East Siberian shelf and slope, especially from a glacial trough and related trough mouth fan setting, focusing on heavy mineral assemblages. That means, heavy minerals in the coarse fraction have been used to reconstruct provenance and source areas and plausible transport mechanisms of the terrigenous sediment fractions. These data are the basis for far field reconstructions of ice sheet activity on the east Siberian Margin during the late Quaternary. For lithostratigraphy and chronology of the studied sediment cores, an important and fundamental prerequisite for any paleo-reconstructions, the authors refer to O`Regan et al. (2017, 2020) as well as Jakobsson et al. (2016). This very well written paper is certainly of interest and an important puzzle piece for the still needed more detailed reconstruction of the history of the East Siberian Ice Sheet, especially in context and relationship to the other major circum-Arctic ice sheets. The new heavy-mineral data give evidence for an extensive ice sheet growth from the East Siberian shelf but also from the New Siberian Islands and westerly sources, probably during MIS 6 (although a deposition during a stadial in MIS 5 or the glacial period of MIS 4 might also be possible as stated by the authors). In general, I have a very positive opinion about the outcome of this study and would like to see the paper published. However, I have some points that should be considered before publication (see below). Thus, at its present stage I recommend “publication after minor revision”.
Several Polarstern expeditions have been carried out in the area across and around southern Lomonosov Ridge close to the Siberian continental margin (e.g., Rachor, 1997; Stein, 2015, 2019), and a large number of sediment cores have been recovered (Fig. 1). Most of these sediment cores can be correlated very well based on their lithology, and a very clear lithostratigraphic concept has been developed (Fig. 1a) that is further supported by physical property data (see Marine Geology subchapters in the cruise reports Rachor, 1997; Stein, 2015, 2019). Based the lithostratigraphy and physical property records as well as some micropaleontological data and preliminary interpretation of paleomag data from Core PS2757-8, a tentative (!) age model had been proposed in our early studies (cf., Behrends, 1999; Stein et al., 2001), an age model that is still be used (cf., Stein et al., 2017) although it’s still tentative. Based on this age model, the prominent dark gray sandy silty clay unit in the lower part of the cores seems to be of MIS 6 age (Fig.1a). The lithologies of the key cores of this study can also be correlated to the Polarstern cores, and their age model based on the new findings of O’Regan et al. (2020) seems to support the old tentative age model we have used for our Polarstern cores.
From several of these Polarstern cores (including key cores PS2757 and 2761) detailed mineralogical and geochemical data have been produced within three PhD studies (Behrends, 1999; Müller, 1999; Schoster, 2005; part of the data is published in Behrends et al., 1999; Müller and Stein, 2000; Schoster et al., 2000). These data including heavy minerals, clay minerals, and major & minor elements, have been used to reconstruct (1) the provenance, source areas and transport mechanisms of the terrigenous sediment fractions and, based on these data sets, (2) the history of the Eurasian and East Siberian ice sheets (Fig. 2). The extent and timing of proposed ice sheets in northern Siberian during MIS 4 and/or MIS 6 are discussed (Fig. 2b; cf., Arkhipov et al., 1986,1995; Müller, 1999). As one example, the heavy mineral record from Core PS2757 is shown in Figure 2c. I recommend that some of these data should be considered and discussed in the present paper.
Finally, I would like to highlight that the reconstruction of provenance, source areas and transport mechanisms of the terrigenous sediment fractions as well as the history of the Pliocene-Pleistocene Eurasian and East Siberian ice sheets is one of the key objectives of the IODP Expedition 377 (ArcticOcean Paleoceanography – ArcOP) scheduled for autumn 2022 (Stein et al., 2021). The locations of the potential IODP sites are in the neighbourhood of the cores discussed here (Fig. 1b). Thus, the results of the studies by Alatarvas et al. as well as our own previous studies on Polarstern material may give ground truth information that is important and helpful for the interpretation of the coming IODP data.
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Fig. 1
(a) Transect of selected sediment cores recovered across the southern Lomonosov Ridge during Polarstern expeditions in 1995, 2014, and 2018 showing main lithologies, lithostratigraphy, and still tentative age model (MIS 6 to 1) based on shipboard data and core correlation (Rachor, 1997; Stein, 2015, 2019 and further references therein). Core PS115/2-14-3 was recovered at the location of proposed IODP Site LR-06A. (b) Map shows locations of Polarstern cores (white circles: 1995; blue circles: 2014; black circles: 2018) and eight of the proposed ArcOP sites (large yellow circles). Location of Core 29-GC-1 shown as black rhomb. Figure from Stein et al. (2021), supplemented.
Fig. 2
(a) Bathymetric map of the Arctic Ocean modified to showing lowered sea level of 120 m during maximum glaciation and ice streams (blue and red arrows), projected flow lines of ice shelves and limits of ice rises (from Jakobsson et al., 2008, supplemented). Main source areas of specific minerals are shown (from Stein et al., 2010, 2012 and references therein): qua = quartz; dol = dolomite; ill = illite; sme = smectite; chl = chlorite; kao = kaolinite; am = amphibole; cli = clinopyroxene. Colour codes mark source region: green = western Laptev Sea, Kara Sea, Barents Sea; blue = eastern Laptev Sea, East Siberian Sea; orange = Bering Strait; pink = Canada, northern Greenland; white = no specific source area. Tentative extent of East Siberian Ice Sheet has been added (cf., Niessen et al., 2013). (Figure from Stein et al., 2012, supplemented). (b) Siberian shelves and proposed ice sheets in northern Siberia during MIS 4 and MIS 6. Figure from Müller (1999) based on Arkhipov et al. (1986, 1995) and own data from her PhD thesis work. Core locations are indicated by black circles. (c) Distribution of heavy minerals in Core PS2757. MIS boundaries 5/6, 4/5, 3/4, and 1/2 are marked as dashed intervals based on a preliminary age model (Behrends, 1999).
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Raisa Alatarvas, 05 Jan 2022
Response to RC1
We appreciate Prof. Stein’s valuable comments and suggestions, as we highly appreciate his proven experience and wide publication background with Arctic research. We are therefore grateful for the opportunity to improve the manuscript according to his comments and ideas. Comments seem very positive and are constructive, and also give some valid references to be considered. He said that manuscript is well written paper and is certainly of interest and an important puzzle piece for the still needed more detailed reconstruction of the history of the East Siberian Ice Sheet, especially in context and relationship to the other major circum-Arctic ice sheets.
Response to specific comments:
Comment: The lithologies of the key cores of this study can also be correlated to the Polarstern cores, and their age model based on the new findings of O’Regan et al. (2020) seems to support the old tentative age model we have used for our Polarstern cores. From several of these Polarstern cores (including key cores PS2757 and 2761) detailed mineralogical and geochemical data have been produced within three PhD studies (Behrends, 1999; Müller, 1999; Schoster, 2005; part of the data is published in Behrends et al., 1999; Müller and Stein, 2000; Schoster et al., 2000). These data including heavy minerals, clay minerals, and major & minor elements, have been used to reconstruct (1) the provenance, source areas and transport mechanisms of the terrigenous sediment fractions and, based on these data sets, (2) the history of the Eurasian and East Siberian ice sheets (Fig. 2). The extent and timing of proposed ice sheets in northern Siberian during MIS 4 and/or MIS 6 are discussed (Fig. 2b; cf., Arkhipov et al., 1986,1995; Müller, 1999). As one example, the heavy mineral record from Core PS2757 is shown in Figure 2c. I recommend that some of these data should be considered and discussed in the present paper.
Response: We will respond to that comment by adding an additional paragraph with highlighted references in the discussion where the results from the Polarstern cruises are discussed especially related to heavy mineral distributions. We will focus on some similarities with Behrand's (1999) work on PS2757, which could be quite similar to the data from SWR-29GC.
Comment: Stein highlighted that the reconstruction of provenance, source areas and transport mechanisms of the terrigenous sediment fractions as well as the history of the Pliocene-Pleistocene Eurasian and East Siberian ice sheets is one of the key objectives of the IODP Expedition 377 (ArcticOcean Paleoceanography – ArcOP) scheduled for autumn 2022. The locations of the potential IODP sites are in the neighborhood of the cores discussed here. Thus, the results of the studies by Alatarvas et al. as well as our own previous studies on Polarstern material may give ground truth information that is important and helpful for the interpretation of the coming IODP data.
Response: This is a relevant notice and importance of this type of studies and the upcoming ArcOP expedition will be mentioned in discussion of the manuscript.
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RC2: 'Comment on cp-2021-111', Leonid Polyak, 09 Dec 2021
Major comments
The paper reports a provenance study of the Late Quaternary sediments from the East Siberian margin and adjacent part of the Lomonosov Ridge (LR) based on heavy minerals. This method is time consuming, and thus used more rarely than the XRD or isotope provenance approaches. As such, it can potentially contribute insight into the depositional history at the Arctic margins, especially in the context of poorly understood Siberian glaciations.
The data include 17 sediment-core samples from the East Siberian Sea (ESS) shelf, slope (De Long Trough (DLT)), and the adjacent part of the Lomonosov Ridge (LR). Half of the samples represent glacigenic deposits (diamictons) from the DLT and LR. Unfortunately, a relatively uneven sample distribution limits potential provenance inferences from this data set. In particular a lack of samples from the LR core above the MIS6 diamicton doesn’t allow for a comparison with interglacial/deglacial environments and with the ESS cores, which represent different geographic, depositional, and possibly stratigraphic settings. Also, the ESS shelf record is poorly represented by just two samples from the last deglaciation.
In addition to the new data, the paper provides a compilation of potential source rocks, which is useful both for this and future provenance studies in the region. It would be more logical, however, to present this information in the Study Area section rather than in the Discussion.
Results of the mineralogical study are reported with considerable detail and appear to be robust (I’m not a specialist to evaluate them more thoroughly). However, the takeaway from these data is somewhat disappointing. The discussion is not well structured and can be difficult to follow, especially without a graphic summary. The point of section 5.2 is unclear as it does not really add much insight into glacial-interglacial transition, the more so “transitions” (I see only one). The discussion to follow (section 5.3) is even more confusing as the interpretation of the new data is mixed with inferences from or attributed to prior studies, lumped together in one paragraph. At the same time, depositional environments and processes are not adequately explained. The text has repeated questionable statements like “During glaciations sediments at the East Siberian shelf and slope were fed by grounded ice … from the eastern hinterland region” (p. 13, lines 12-13) and “It is suggested that there was an extensive ice sheet in the northeastern Siberia particularly during MIS 6 … and further supported by this study” (p. 13, lines 37-39). These statements are not based on the actually reported data, but primarily on not very accurate references to prior publications. The modeling experiments (Colleoni et al., 2016; Wekerle et al., 2016) indeed inferred an ice sheet in northeastern Siberia, but its existence has not been verified by geological data - neither from land, nor from the shelf. On the contrary, the cited work on the New Siberian Islands (Nikolskiy et al., 2017) indicates ice sheet advance only from the northern ESS shelf, not from the mainland.
Authors infer that sediments were initially delivered to the shelf by rivers and then transported to the slope and adjacent basins by various processes, including glacigenic during glacial periods. The story is probably more complex as sediment input from coastal erosion enhanced by permafrost degradation may be comparable to rivers, but overall the two-step deposition is consistent with our knowledge of modern processes at the Arctic margins. However, in this situation, identifying the ice-sheet provenance from the data under study is problematic as sediment delivered by ice directly from the mainland may not be easily distinguishable from sediment redeposited from the shelf. This task is even more complicated by multiple mechanisms of glacigenic sedimentation, such as subglacial till, proglacial debris flows, icebergs, etc. As these processes are not identified or even discussed in the paper, I don’t see how the authors can reconstruct the ice origin.
The inference on different sources for glacigenic sediments in cores from the DLT and LR is more convincing and informative. However, it raises questions too. Most important, the SW provenance of the MIS6 diamicton in the LR core is inconsistent with the direction of the eroding ice flow indicated by the seafloor bedforms (Jakobsson et al., 2016). One possibility is that the erosional event is not reflected in the sedimentary record (hiatus), while the diamicton was deposited from icebergs. In any case, this issue needs to be discussed. Further, it is not clear whether the diamicton recovered in the DLT is correlative to the MIS6 diamicton on the LR. Chances are the DLT diamicton is younger, and thus represents the provenance of a different glaciation.
References are limited. Only studies of heavy minerals are used for discussing the ESS sediments, while papers dealing with other mineralogical aspects could provide a more comprehensive context (e.g., Washner et al., 1999; Viscosi-Shirley et al., 2003; Nwaodua et al., 2014; Ye et al., 2020). Relevant studies of the distribution and composition of glacigenic deposits at or adjacent to the ESS margin are also missing (e.g., Schreck et al., 2018; Joe et al., 2020; Ye et al., 2020). A broader Arctic Ocean context can be derived from recent provenance papers (e.g., Dong et al., 2020; Xiao et al., 2021).
Some additional comments
Abstract
- This study concentrates on defining the mineralogical signature and dynamics of the ESIS (p. 1, lines 16-17).
This statement is misleading. The study deals with mineralogical signature of sediments from the ESS margin. Whether it reflects the ESIS provenance is a matter of interpretation, even more so for the ice-sheet dynamics.Introduction
- “… previous studies have suggested the existence of ice sheets over parts of the East Siberian continental shelf during the larger Pleistocene glaciations following the mid-Pleistocene transition (Colleoni et al., 2016; Niessen et al., 2013), the Saalian (Marine Isotope Stage 6) (Jakobsson et al., 2016)” (p. 2, lines 2-4).
This statement is inaccurate and confusing. Are we talking about multiple glaciations or just the MIS6? And where does the MPT come from? While there is evidence for a very large impact of the MIS6 glaciation on the Arctic, we do not know whether it featured the largest ice sheet on the East Siberian margin. Niessen et al. (2013) demonstrated glacial seafloor features in this region but have not constrained their age. Later studies suggested a very extensive glacial footprint in at least some parts of the East Siberian and Chukchi margin for MIS4 (Schreck et al., 2018; Joe et al., 2020; Kim et al., 2021).Materials and Methods
- What is the point for a detailed description of seismostratigraphy? These data are not used in the paper.Discussion
- What are “our mineral assemblages” (p. 13, line 19)? Please be specific.- What is “the eastern sector of the East Siberian Ice Sheet” (p. 13, line 27)? So far, the extent and configuration of this, largely hypothetical ice sheet is very poorly understood. What can be inferred from the data is that the mineralogical signature indicates delivery from the eastern part of the ESS.
Conclusions
- “This suggests that due to dynamics of the ice flow and deposition the glacial ice not only grew out from the East Siberian shelf but also from the New Siberian Islands and westerly sources” (p. 14, lines 10-11).
How could the ice sheet grow from the new Siberian Islands, if it was advancing on the islands from the north (Nikolskiy et al., 2013)? And what are the “westerly sources”?Terminology
- I don’t think the “Central plateau” is a good term for the study area as the entire East Siberian shelf is pretty flat. This term has been used indeed by Naugler et al., 1974, but it doesn’t make much geomorphic or geological sense. More generic terms like “inner shelf” or just “shelf” would be more appropriate.Recommendations
Overall, I believe the MS requires a considerable revision. Ideally would be to investigate a few more samples to fill the gaps in the sedimentary record under study, notably from post-MIS6 sediments in the LR core and from the Holocene on the ESS shelf. However, I understand the practical constraints. The text, especially the Discussion, needs to be better articulated, with a clear delineation of inferences from the data reported and a more comprehensive and to the point use of information from prior studies. A summary figure would be very helpful for following and comprehending the interpretation. The conclusions, abstract, and the title need to be coherent with the data-based interpretation. An accurate title would be something like “Heavy mineral provenance of glacigenic deposits at the East Siberian margin, Arctic Ocean”.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/cp-2021-111-RC2 -
AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Raisa Alatarvas, 05 Jan 2022
Response to RC2
We appreciate Leonid Polyak’s very detailed comments and suggestions on the manuscript. We are thankful for the chance to adjust the manuscript according to his comments and suggestions. Comments and suggested references are valid and constructive.
Response to major comments:
Comment: In particular, a lack of samples from the LR core above the MIS6 diamicton doesn’t allow for a comparison with interglacial/deglacial environments and with the ESS cores, which represent different geographic, depositional, and possibly stratigraphic settings. Also, the ESS shelf record is poorly represented by just two samples from the last deglaciation.
Response: We now specifically concentrate on correlating diamicts between the studied cores and improve our interpretations. This is actually the primary aim of this study. Our sample set in 24-GCI is useful to do compositional comparison between diamicts and overlying sediments and not for detecting several transitions from glacial to interglacial.
Comment: In addition to the new data, the paper provides a compilation of potential source rocks, which is useful both for this and future provenance studies in the region. It would be more logical, however, to present this information in the Study Area section rather than in the Discussion.
Response: A compilation figure and table of the potential source rocks is now presented in the Study Area section.
Comment: The discussion is not well structured and can be difficult to follow, especially without a graphic summary.
Response: The discussion will be structured better, and a summary table or graphic summary added.
Comment: The discussion in section 5.3 is even more confusing as the interpretation of the new data is mixed with inferences from or attributed to prior studies, lumped together in one paragraph. At the same time, depositional environments and processes are not adequately explained
Response: Depositional environments and processes of diamicts will be explained as a separate paragraph within section 5.3. At the same time relevant references can be added.
Comment: Identifying the ice-sheet provenance from the data under study is problematic as sediment delivered by ice directly from the mainland may not be easily distinguishable from sediment redeposited from the shelf. This task is even more complicated by multiple mechanisms of glacigenic sedimentation, such as subglacial till, proglacial debris flows, icebergs, etc. As these processes are not identified or even discussed in the paper, I don’t see how the authors can reconstruct the ice origin.
Response: Depositional environments and processes will be discussed more adequately as a separate paragraph including identification of different glacigenic processes for generating diamicts.
Comment: The inference on different sources for glacigenic sediments in cores from the DLT and LR is more convincing and informative. However, it raises questions too. Most important, the SW provenance of the MIS6 diamicton in the LR core is inconsistent with the direction of the eroding ice flow indicated by the seafloor bedforms (Jakobsson et al., 2016). One possibility is that the erosional event is not reflected in the sedimentary record (hiatus), while the diamicton was deposited from icebergs. In any case, this issue needs to be discussed.
Response: This is a good notice. The SW provenance of the MIS6 diamicton in the LR core and the direction of the eroding ice flow indicated by the seafloor bedform will be discussed. Regarding the 'SW sources', there are a couple of options here aside from different transport/re-deposition processes. In the paper by West et al., 2021 he shows that the base of 29-GC may not be the actual glacial diamict associated with scouring of the Ridge, but a later one, maybe break up and large-scale iceberg inputs. This opens the door for more SW sources of material being transported there. This will be added to the discussion.
Comment: References are limited. Only studies of heavy minerals are used for discussing the ESS sediments, while papers dealing with other mineralogical aspects could provide a more comprehensive context (e.g., Washner et al., 1999; Viscosi-Shirley et al., 2003; Nwaodua et al., 2014; Ye et al., 2020). Relevant studies of the distribution and composition of glacigenic deposits at or adjacent to the ESS margin are also missing (e.g., Schreck et al., 2018; Joe et al., 2020; Ye et al., 2020). A broader Arctic Ocean context can be derived from recent provenance papers (e.g., Dong et al., 2020; Xiao et al., 2021).
Response: References will be added for other mineral aspects supporting interpretations of heavy mineral distribution. The distribution and composition of glacigenic deposits at the ESS margin will be added compiled with the results from the Polarstern cruises.
Response to additional comments:
Comment: In Abstract; “This study concentrates on defining the mineralogical signature and dynamics of the ESIS (p. 1, lines 16-17)”. This statement is misleading. The study deals with mineralogical signature of sediments from the ESS margin. Whether it reflects the ESIS provenance is a matter of interpretation, even more so for the ice-sheet dynamics.
Response: The study will mainly deal with mineralogical signature of sediments from the ESS margin.
Comment: In Introduction; “… previous studies have suggested the existence of ice sheets over parts of the East Siberian continental shelf during the larger Pleistocene glaciations following the mid-Pleistocene transition (Colleoni et al., 2016; Niessen et al., 2013), the Saalian (Marine Isotope Stage 6) (Jakobsson et al., 2016)” (p. 2, lines 2-4). This statement is inaccurate and confusing. Are we talking about multiple glaciations or just the MIS6? And where does the MPT come from? While there is evidence for a very large impact of the MIS6 glaciation on the Arctic, we do not know whether it featured the largest ice sheet on the East Siberian margin. Niessen et al. (2013) demonstrated glacial seafloor features in this region but have not constrained their age. Later studies suggested a very extensive glacial footprint in at least some parts of the East Siberian and Chukchi margin for MIS4 (Schreck et al., 2018; Joe et al., 2020; Kim et al., 2021).
Response: This statement will be revised for the suggested glacial extents.
Comment: In Materials and Methods; What is the point for a detailed description of seismostratigraphy? These data are not used in the paper.
Response: The description of seismotratigraphy will be shortened and condensed. Overall, description of seismostratigraphy can help correlation between the studied cores.
Comment: In Discussion; What are “our mineral assemblages” (p. 13, line 19)? Please be specific - What is “the eastern sector of the East Siberian Ice Sheet” (p. 13, line 27)? So far, the extent and configuration of this, largely hypothetical ice sheet is very poorly understood. What can be inferred from the data is that the mineralogical signature indicates delivery from the eastern part of the ESS.
Response: “These results can be detected also within our studied heavy mineral assemblages.” It is accurate, that the mineralogical signature indicates only delivery from the eastern part of the ESS.
Comment: In Conclusions, “This suggests that due to dynamics of the ice flow and deposition the glacial ice not only grew out from the East Siberian shelf but also from the New Siberian Islands and westerly sources” (p. 14, lines 10-11). How could the ice sheet grow from the new Siberian Islands, if it was advancing on the islands from the north (Nikolskiy et al., 2013)? And what are the “westerly sources”?
Response: This sentence could be revised, and the following references taken into count. “There could have been a smaller local ice cap developed over the De Long Islands during a stadial of MIS 5 (O’Regan et al. 2017).” “The ice stream occupying the DLT was likely connected to glacial ice over the De Long and New Siberian Islands (O’Regan et al. 2017).” Westerly sources relate mostly to the Laptev Sea.
Comment: In Terminology; I don’t think the “Central plateau” is a good term for the study area as the entire East Siberian shelf is pretty flat. This term has been used indeed by Naugler et al., 1974, but it doesn’t make much geomorphic or geological sense. More generic terms like “inner shelf” or just “shelf” would be more appropriate.
Response: More generic terms like “inner shelf” or just “shelf” can be seen appropriate.
Recommendations: Overall, I believe the MS requires a considerable revision. Ideally would be to investigate a few more samples to fill the gaps in the sedimentary record under study, notably from post-MIS6 sediments in the LR core and from the Holocene on the ESS shelf. However, I understand the practical constraints. The text, especially the Discussion, needs to be better articulated, with a clear delineation of inferences from the data reported and a more comprehensive and to the point use of information from prior studies. A summary figure would be very helpful for following and comprehending the interpretation. The conclusions, abstract, and the title need to be coherent with the data-based interpretation. An accurate title would be something like “Heavy mineral provenance of glacigenic deposits at the East Siberian margin, Arctic Ocean”.
Response for recommendations: There is no specific need for few more samples as detecting several transitions from glacial to interglacial is not a target in this study. We specifically concentrate on correlating diamicts within each studied core and improve our interpretations for existing glacial processes and diamict provenances. The text can be articulated better, and more accurate title will be considered.
Cited references:
OʼRegan, M., Backman, J., Barrientos, N., Cronin, T.M., Gemery, L., Kirchner, N., Mayer, L.A., Nilsson, J., Noormets, R., Pearce, C., Semiletov, I., Stranne, C., Jakobsson, M.: The De Long Trough: a newly discovered glacial trough on the East Siberian continental margin. Climate of the Past, 13, 1269–1284, https://doi.org/10.5194/cp-13-1269-2017, 2017.
West, G., Alexanderson, H., Jakobsson, M., and O’Regan, M. Optically stimulated luminescence dating supports pre-Eemian age for glacial ice on the Lomonosov Ridge off the East Siberian continental shelf. Quaternary Science Reviews, 267, https://doi.org/10.1016/j.quascirev.2021.107082, 2021.
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AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Raisa Alatarvas, 05 Jan 2022