Articles | Volume 21, issue 11
https://doi.org/10.5194/cp-21-2465-2025
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Mid-Holocene sea-ice dynamics and climate in the northeastern Weddell Sea inferred from an Antarctic snow petrel stomach oil deposit
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- Final revised paper (published on 26 Nov 2025)
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-513', Xavier Crosta, 09 Apr 2025
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Mark Stevenson, 24 Jun 2025
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-513', Anonymous Referee #2, 13 May 2025
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Mark Stevenson, 24 Jun 2025
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ED: Reconsider after major revisions (05 Jul 2025) by Alessio Rovere
AR by Mark Stevenson on behalf of the Authors (16 Oct 2025)
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ED: Publish as is (29 Oct 2025) by Alessio Rovere
AR by Mark Stevenson on behalf of the Authors (05 Nov 2025)
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The manuscript by Stevenson and co-authors uses XRF and geochemical data in a snow petrel stomach oil deposit to reconstruct summer sea-ice dynamics in the eastern Weddell Sea over the Holocene. The investigation of this novel type of archive provides complementary information to ice and marine cores and, here, new information from an under-sampled area. The present study is, therefore, timely and of great interest to the paleo-community and beyond.
The manuscript is written in a complicated way, with much diluting information, and the structure is not always sensible. I started listing the comments below, but it was taking too long. I, therefore, present the most important ones only and direct the authors to the annotated manuscript for additional ones.
Sea-ice extent vs sea-ice duration: There is constant confusion between sea ice expansion (winter sea ice edge farther to the north), which you can infer from ice core data or a transect of marine cores, and sea ice conditions over the continental shelf. For example, Lines 342-343 the cooling of surface and freshening of shelf surface waters since the middle-Holocene (Ashley et al., 2021) conducted to increase sea-ice concentration and sea-ice duration on the continental shelf (Crosta et al., 2008; Mezgec et al., 2017; Johson et al., 2021), but did not result in greater sea-ice expansion that conversely recessed in the open ocean (Nielsen et al., 2004; Xiao et al., 2016). This dichotomic behaviour is possibly related to the latitudinal insolation and thermal gradients (Denis et al., 2010) as well as the multi-centennial expression of climate modes (Crosta et al., 2020).
Regional settings: Section 2.1 does not contain a regional context despite the title. I would recommend to detail the regional oceanographic and cryospheric system that will help understand the interpretations thereafter. In this optic, the seasonal sea-ice cycle must be described to know the mean location of the modern sea-ice edge each month as a basis of past changes inferred from the stomach oil deposit analyses. Visualising the seasonal cycle in the northeastern Weddell Sea would also allow to better understanding of the spatio-temporal foraging behaviour of the snow petrel and clarify whether the Maud Rise polynya could have been a foraging zone (section 4.5) despite being very remote (Figure 1).
Age Model: All published Bayesian age models have the mean age (red curve in figure 2) that follows more or less the 14C dates and their envelopes (blue ellipses). Here, it is out of the ellipses by a few hundred years and seemingly follows very thin darkish "lines" scattered throughout the record. Why and what are these thin lines? It is not even clear what represents the blue ellipses. For example, the three at ~5cm are centered at 4200 years BP, while the raw ages are ~5000 years BP, and the calibrated median is ~4500 years BP (Table 1). Finally, the caption of Figure 2 must be detailed for the red lines and its envelope, the blue ellipses, etc.
Statistical analyses: The input data for the PCA must be detailed in section 2.7. From Supplementary Figures 9-10, I understood that the input data are log10 transformed and centred datasets (not said), but the data presented in Figures 3-4 are raw data (cps for XRF data) normalised to accumulation rates. This explains why there is little resemblance between the PCs and the XRF data that make them (PC2 and Cl and S, for example). Overall, this is very confusing and must be better explained. Overall, I question the utility of the PCA as downcore PCs are hardly interpreted.
Structure: The Results present many interpretations, which complicate the reading. For example, lines 217-218 and 220-221 refer to previous publications; lines 227-229 and 310-320 identify the meaning of the proxies. The former type of interpretation can be sprinkled throughout the Discussion, while the former can be gathered in a section dedicated to the use of the proxies.
There are also many typos and non-consistent use of sea ice vs sea-ice.
Interpretations: (1) It seems to me that most of the interpretations are indicative of environmental conditions in the central Weddell Sea, where summer sea ice is present today but represents a fifth of the foraging area. I am less convinced it is valid for the northeastern Weddell Sea and Lazarev Sea, where the continental shelf is very narrow. (2) I sometimes did not get the reasoning by which foraging in coastal polynya is inferred (lines 353-355), which is not supported by the data (lines 360-363). Overall, it seems to me that authors infer either an open ocean or coastal polynya foraging, while snow petrels may have foraged at the marginal ice zone as it recessed from offshore to the coast over the feeding season. Marine cores show open ocean conditions during summer off northern Ross Sea, Wilkes Land, Prydz Bay, Western Antarctic Peninsula, etc. I do not understand why the authors here suggest the presence of summer sea ice off the northeastern Weddell Sea (Figure 5). (3) Some data are over-interpreted. For example, it is said that the cholesterol is higher in Org-C zone, which is not true in Figure 3 and 6. Authors infer feeding in coastal polynya (lines 425-426), which is contradictory with krill feeding as these organisms need a deep water column for their biological cycle. (4) By comparison to other coastal sites (marine cores), open summer sea-ice conditions may have prevailed off the nesting sites during the late Holocene. Additionally, nesting was possible during the last glacial at the nearby Untersee Oasis when sea-ice conditions were much harsher (McClymont et al., 2021). Do you really think that “increased sea ice extent restricted access to foraging grounds and by ~1700 cal. yr BP resulted in abandonment of the nest site”? (5) Eventually, I do not see the added-value of section 4.6.
I hope these comments and the ones listed in the annotated manuscript will help improve an important study.
Xavier Crosta