Articles | Volume 20, issue 12
https://doi.org/10.5194/cp-20-2645-2024
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ClimeApp: data processing tool for monthly, global climate data from the ModE-RA palaeo-reanalysis, 1422 to 2008 CE
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- Final revised paper (published on 29 Nov 2024)
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-743', Anonymous Referee #1, 25 Apr 2024
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-743', Feng Shi, 26 Apr 2024
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Niklaus Emanuel Bartlome, 21 Jun 2024
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ED: Reconsider after major revisions (26 Jun 2024) by Shiling Yang
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ED: Publish subject to minor revisions (review by editor) (02 Aug 2024) by Shiling Yang
AR by Niklaus Emanuel Bartlome on behalf of the Authors (13 Sep 2024)
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ED: Publish as is (20 Sep 2024) by Shiling Yang
AR by Niklaus Emanuel Bartlome on behalf of the Authors (01 Oct 2024)
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Summary: The manuscript presents software to access data sets that may be interesting for researchers of the paleoclimate of the past centuries. This data set comprises three ‘reconstructions’ of seasonal climate fields based on climate simulations and an off-line assimilation scheme that merged the output of these simulations with natural proxies and long instrumental records.
Recommendation: I have some recommendations to improve the clarity of the text. In some instances, the text is indeed rather unclear, for instance, in the description of the differences between the three different data sets. To really understand these differences, I needed to look up the Valler et al. (2024) paper, and I think that this manuscript should provide enough clear information for the interested reader without the need to look up the original publications. Other than these recommendations, I think that the manuscript and the software are a relevant contribution to palaeoclimate research, and it will facilitate the use of these data sets by other groups.
1) Title: I found the title too ‘literary’. This title would be fine for an internet site or a press release, but not really for a research paper. In its present form, it is not informative, and it should include specifications of the time scale, type of tool, and spatial extent of the data. I suggest including ModE-RA Climate Reanalysis, webtool, global, past centuries, and seasonal in the title and keeping the title technical.
2) 'ClimeApp allows access to the ModE-Sim climate simulation, which is the basis of ModE-RA before assimilating early instrumental, documentary and proxy data. '
Actually, ClimApp allows access to all three data sets. This sentence may confuse the reader.
3) 'ModE-Sim is a climate model experiment '
ModE-Sim is not really a climate model experiment, and this terminology can be confusing for tan average paleoclimate reader - Please, keep the expected reader in mind (!). ModE-Sim is an ensemble of global climate simulations driven by external forcings.
4) Originally designed to form the physical basis for ModE-RA,
This sentence may be unclear to the average reader. Observations also form ‘a physical basis’, so it can be argued that MedE_Sim and the observations both are the physical basis for ModE-RA
5) 'The ModE-Sim ensemble mean used in ClimeApp represents the average over a set of climate states (the
"ensemble members") that the model assumes to be realistic given the external forcings and boundary conditions.'
Consider a clearer version of this sentence, for instance: Each member in the ModE-Sim ensemble represents a possible climate state that is compatible (from the model’s perspective) with the external forcing). The ensemble mean is the average over all ensemble members.
6) 'Averaging reduces temporal variability in the ensemble mean, compared with observations, but retains and highlights signals caused by variations in the forcings and boundary conditions, e.g. the climate's reaction to a volcanic eruption. '
Averaging over the ensemble members also reduces the spatial variability, not only the temporal variability. The original sentence is, in my opinion, correct, but it may mislead the reader. Also, consider replacing boundary conditions by specifying SSt and sea-ice. This will help the average paleoclimatologist.
7) ‘ ModE-RA it can also help climatologists identify how observations affect the final reanalysis.’
This sentence, and actually the description of ModE-Clim is rather cryptic.
8) ‘with observations increasing exponentially through time. Starting from a few thousand natural proxies and historical documents in the 15th century, by the late 19th century approximately 100000 mostly instrumental measurements are assimilated each year.’
Exponentially ? I do not tink this is the case. Probably, the authors mean increasing very rapidly - until they reach saturation.
9) ‘ this allows accurate reconstruction of the autumn, winter and spring seasons, in addition to the widespread tree-ring based summer reconstructions.’
In principle, the setup allows for a seasonal reconstruction. Whether or not the reconstruction is accurate is another matter.
10) ' The current resolution for ModE-RA is 1.875° (longitude) by 1.865° (latitude)'
spatial horizontal resolution
11) ‘ This means that in ModE-RAclim, the externally forced signal in the model simulations is removed from the ensemble and only added back if it appears in the observations. ‘
As noted before, I found the description of Mod-E-RAclim rather confusing, and I needed to go back to the original paper by Valler et al. to really understand the difference. If I am not mistaken, the difference between ModE-RA and ModE-RAClim is the construction of the prior. For ModE-RA, the prior is constructed from the time-aligned ensemble members of Mod-Sim, i.g. the prior for the year 1800 is constructed from all simulated states for that particular year. For ModE-RAClim the prior is constructed from temporally non-aligned simulated states, e.g. the prior for 1800 includes all years of the ensemble ModE-Sim, regardless of the simulated year. Is my interpretation correct? If so, please spare a few lines to describe it more clearly. If not, please consider describing the ModE-RAClim in a much more detailed manner.
In my interpretation, the model error-covariance (spread) for ModE-RAClim is generally larger than for Mod-RA. For this reason, the impact of assimilating observations in ModE-RAClim is stronger. Please confirm if this is correct.