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New age constraints for glacial terminations IV, III, and III.a based on Western Mediterranean speleothem records
Abstract. The full understanding of climate feedbacks responsible for the amplification of deglaciations requires robust chronologies for these climate transitions, but, in the case of marine records, radiocarbon chronologies are possible only for the last glacial termination. Although the assumed relationships between the marine isotopic record and the orbital parameters provide a first order chronology for the previous terminations, an independent chronological control allows the relationships between orbital forcing and the climate response to be assessed over multiple previous terminations. Here we present new geochemical records of Marine Isotope Stages 11 to 7 from a western Mediterranean speleothem, establishing a new long terrestrial climate record for this region. Its absolute U/Th dates provide an exceptional chronology for the glacial terminations IV, III, and III.a. The onset of these three glacial terminations was marked by rapid δ18O depletions, reflecting ocean freshening by ice melting, thus providing an excellent tie point for regional marine records also sensitive to such freshening. These new chronologies reveal an earlier onset of the deglacial melting for the TIV and TIII.a in contrast to the generally accepted marine chronologies and indicate that the duration of these deglaciations was variable, with TIV particularly longer (~20 kyr). This study also supports that the onset of deglacial melting always occurred during declining precession index while a nonunique relation occurred with the obliquity parameter.
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Torner et al use a speleothem record from the Western Mediterranean region to provide new absolute age constraints to the glacial terminations of TIV, TIII and TIIIa. They use speleothem proxy data to provide additional hydroclimatic context to these time periods. And provide extensive discussion on how this record can be used
- to evaluate orbital forcing on Terminations,
- to evaluate the differences between millennial structure of the different Terminations,
- to provide absolute age control to marine records through tie points
- and to provide a fuller picture of the sequence of climate events during Terminations.
It would be great to see this article published. I have only a few comments that would hopefully make it easier to garner more information from the article.
Comments:
- In the introduction, please can you add just a sentence or so on why it is relevant to study Terminations in the context of current climate change
- Lines 65-70: It would be great if any speleothem could truly have an unambiguous climatic interpretation! It would be better to phrase this as ‘relatively unambiguous climate interpretation’ or ‘better understood climate interpretation’.
- Lines 105-110: Sub-heading 2.1 should be more appropriately named as maybe ‘ cave setting and regional hydroclimate’ or so. All the cave description could come first followed by a description of regional hydroclimate. So the sentences at Line 122, ‘The Murada cave….’ Onward should move to the start of that section.
- Section sub-heading 2.2 should be Geochemical analyses.
- Lines 140-145: Was the reversed age removed or included in the final age model generation by StalAge?
- Lines 140-145: Add MIS and Termination numbers to this figure to make it easier to understand the text around Lines 190. Please can you also show the exact sample points as markers either in this figure or in the appendix. It would be good to see how many samples cover the slow growth periods.
- Lines 150-155: ‘Concurrently measured’ should instead be ‘made on aliquots of the same powder sample’. Also remove the word estimated since these are simply results that have been measured and compared.
- Lines 165-170: What is CCiT-UB?
- Lines 265-270: Since so much of the discussion surrounds the sequence and duration of events, it would be great to have an idea of the uncertainties of these records, i.e. not just the speleothem record produced in this study, but also the other records being discussed in this figure. If the data are available, these could be plotted in the figure, if not, some estimates as a table or in the text would be great. Similarly, it would be good to see in the figure or have it noted in the text, if any event is represented by a single sample measurement. And the same for Figures 4 and 5.
- There are some typos in the text so it could do with another check.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/cp-2024-54-RC1
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